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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Keanu Kuvalis" data-source="post: 28553" data-attributes="member: 10845">Wanna share something painful here... About a problem that isn't solved even by the most super fancy dedicated private overpriced elite proxy. Not solved by antidetect settings, and not even by (oh my god!) the scary and terrible behavioral factors so popular on BHW these days.It's about ping.Imagine: you're in Germany, your proxy server is in New York, and you need your traffic to look like it's coming from a real New York user.Traffic path looks like this: [ your laptop in Germany ] ↔ [ transatlantic hop ] ↔ [ proxy server in NY ] ↔ [ target site ].Every TCP handshake & TLS negotiation adds 100+ ms of extra latency across the Atlantic. The target site sees a network signature that simply makes no sense for a "local" connection:☹ TCP RTT inconsistent with a New York IP.☹ TLS handshake timing way slower than a real local connection.☹ Click and keystroke timings arriving late.☹ WebSocket round-trips constantly betraying the real distance.Packet transmission delay can't be tricked by any setups or spoofing, unfortunately.So what CAN trick it?A virtual machine (VM) near your proxy server! In our example the VM doesn't have to be placed right in NY, somewhere in the US is enough. In this case the traffic path changes to: [ VM in US ] ↔ [ proxy server in NY ] ↔ [ target site ]. You RDP into the VM from anywhere on earth (rent a Windows RDP or use a cheaper Linux VPS with RDP installed, then connect to the proxy from that VM). Your local latency only affects how the VM looks to you, not how the target site sees the session. And if your VM and proxy server are relatively close to each other (less than 500-1000km), then the target site basically can't suspect anything based on ping. Every timing signal lines up perfectly with a real local user, because functionally it is one.☺ Network signatures are clean, consistent, regional☺ Your home ISP quality stops mattering☺ Long-running sessions stay stable for hours☺Works the same whether you're in Berlin, Bali, or Buenos Aires.So if your proxy is in another country, your workstation needs to be there too.VM is the difference between traffic that behaves like a real local user and traffic that doesn't.P.S. The ping problem is especially important for datacenter and residential (home wifi) proxies. Because datacenters and homes have stable predictable pings. Mobile proxies have an advantage here, because normal mobile phones tend to lose signal quality, go into elevators, or get caught in the rain (yes, during rain phone ping drops). So the target site is generally prepared for a mobile IP to occasionally "lag" in terms of ping. However, VMs will be useful for mobile proxies too, if you're physically on a different continent from the proxy server.</blockquote>

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